I haven't, no. Neither have most people, and the ones who do generally have some motive for it, whether it be because they couldn't defend themselves without killing the other person or whether it be because they were an obstacle of sorts. You do get your occasional lunatic who kills for fun, but they're about as abnormal as you get.
Weeell, I guess there is always a reason... motive, like you said, defense, because they've been told to do so. What do you think of people who do that? Kill, I mean.
I'd say it still comes down to the reason, honestly. I wouldn't blame anyone who was fighting in a war or someone who killed in self-defense, but outside of things like that, it becomes kind of a slippery slope.
Like, let's go back to this moon example. If the man who killed the other man with a rock did so because the victim had gone on a murderous rampage beforehand, I'd say it was probably justified. But if he was killed because he made a pass at the other man's significant other... well, that's too much.
As long as there is a legit reason behind it, you think it's fine? Or at least it is 'justified'? But, why is that okay and yet the other reason now? Both are resulting in someone getting hurt.
Well, I think with the murderer scenario, you're effectively preventing more future death, while with some romantic conflict, you're just dealing with something that can be worked out if you just talk about things like adults.
Buuuut what if it can't be worked out? What if the guy was, like, totally not listening and was ignoring the other one and was threatening to hurt him instead? That makes it fine, right?
Well, it should still be the last resort, I think. Like, in that situation, you can just avoid him or go to the police, and if all that fails and he actually attacks... well, if that's how things played out, then that's fine.
A runaway trolley is headed towards a fork in the tracks. There are five people tied to the tracks on one fork and one person tied to the tracks on the other. You are in control of the lever that will switch which set of tracks the trolley is on. Which do you choose? 1. The track with one person 2. The track with five people 3. Walk away from the lever and absolve yourself of the responsibility
Hm, not always. Machines can be pretty useful, y'know.
There are many different types of data you can shove into them and it helps to have some hacker on your side or ... just someone who knows their way around a machine.
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Like, let's go back to this moon example. If the man who killed the other man with a rock did so because the victim had gone on a murderous rampage beforehand, I'd say it was probably justified. But if he was killed because he made a pass at the other man's significant other... well, that's too much.
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As long as there is a legit reason behind it, you think it's fine? Or at least it is 'justified'? But, why is that okay and yet the other reason now? Both are resulting in someone getting hurt.
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This has certainly been a lesson of sorts. [ Vaguely. It isn't as if killing matters much to her for obvious reasons. ] We should finish this game.
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[LET'S MOVE OUT OF PHILOSOPHY TIME...]
So, next question...
A runaway trolley is headed towards a fork in the tracks. There are five people tied to the tracks on one fork and one person tied to the tracks on the other. You are in control of the lever that will switch which set of tracks the trolley is on. Which do you choose?
1. The track with one person
2. The track with five people
3. Walk away from the lever and absolve yourself of the responsibility
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Is this... what they're supposed to be asking us?
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[ It almost sounds like a target on her back -- or maybe it is his? ]
The answer is an obvious one.
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[por que no los dos.]
And yes, I also believe the answer is obvious.
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How lame! I don't want some broken piece of trash. This is so boring to deal with.
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[he says, looking over at the door and not at junko's underwear.]
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There's no need to let them know if their dumb toy works or not.
[ Her mood quickly switches, no longer caring about the machine anymore and she places her foot firmly on the ground again. ]
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I mean, there is something kind of amusing about the idea of a vapid love tester spitting out hard-hitting philosophical quandaries.
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[ Junko gives him a wink. Her tone is a teasing one, almost a little too high pitch for her words to be taken seriously. ]
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[....like who knows, but HE is not the fucked up one here. definitely not. he is entirely sane and well adjusted.]
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[ which is very boring after a while and it's no wonder she became insane from it. ]
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That... sounds pretty handy, I suppose. But I’d imagine it’d be different for a machine to do that than an actual person, though.
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There are many different types of data you can shove into them and it helps to have some hacker on your side or ... just someone who knows their way around a machine.
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Anyway... [ Junko hums in thought ] I don't believe I caught your name. Mine is Junko Enoshima and it has been a pleasure talking to you.
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[He inclines his head in a slight bow.]
My name is Tarrlok. It's been fun talking with you, as well.
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